Tuesday, July 10, 2018

How to check if Hondash will work with my ECU?

Follow these simple steps to determine whether the Hondash will work with your ECU.

1. 3 pin or 5 pin diagnostic connector

All Honda car models produced in 1992-2001 (gasoline engines - OBD1 '92-'95, OBD2A '96-'99, OBD2B '99-'01) that use the 3 pin or 5 pin DLC diagnostic connector, are compatible with Hondash. 
If you can locate the 3 pin or 5 pin diagnostic connector in your car (locations described here), then your ECU is compatible

3 pin DLC connector
5 pin DLC connector

Depending on the car model and build year:
  • the 3 pin connector can have either 2 or 3 wires
  • the 5 pin connector either 3 or 5 wires, in this case the communication wire (purple wire in the picture, color may vary among car models) must be present in the connector. The "5 to 3 pin adapter" (sold separately) is required in order to connect the Hondash interface.


2. OBD Compatibility table (optional)

If you've already located the 3 pin or 5 pin diagnostic  connector, you may search the OBD compatiblity table for your ECU to check if it was already tested.  Please note that some ECUs are still missing in the table, but if the 3 pin or 5 pin diagnostic connector is on-board, they are compatible.


3. DLC Connector 3 pin / 5 pin voltages

You may also check the voltages on the connector pins, to determine its working status. There should be a 5 V (communication wire 4.85 - 5.10 V) pin (with ignition switched on) and a 12 V (power source wire 11.5 - 14.5 V) pin.
3 pin connector voltages
5 pin connector voltages

In case you're not getting 12V voltage on power wire, you should check for blown fuse (Under hood fuse/relay box, nr.43, 7.5A, ceiling light/cargo area light/DLC connector/Power antenna).
OBD1 without the power wire
Some OBD1 cars ('92-'95) don't have the power wire in the DLC connector. Guide on how to wire custom power source can be found here

4. Aftermarket / chipped ECU

If you're using aftermarket or chipped ECU, please read this post about Aftermarket / chipped ECU to determine the compatibility by yourself. 

5. Immobilizer mods

If your ECU was modified with an IMMO OFF (immobilizer piggybacked, replaced, removed) or similar procedure to disable the immobilizer on the hardware level, your ECU might not work with Hondash as we've already seen in a few instances involving immobilizer mods. Immobilizer circuit seems to play a crucial part in ECU communication, any mod to the immobilizer might result in an invalidated ECU, not suitable for diagnostics communication anymore.

6. Engine swap

In case of swapped cars:
  • make sure the donor car was using a 3 pin or a 5 pin diagnostic connector if the donor car's ECU is used instead, and check that it complies with the 5. step, otherwise use a compatible ECU that does not have an immobilizer from factory, or use an aftermarket or chipped ECU as described in 4. step.
  • if the swap also includes conversion harnesses (OBD2A to OBD1 or vice versa), make sure that the communication 5V wire in the DLC diagnostic connector is correctly connected to a ECU pin (described as "K-line" or "TXD+RXD") by tracing it (using multimeter's continuity test) all the way to the ECU connector pins, using a pin-out diagram for the ECU as your reference.